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					 5.1  
					We are to pray to God.  Aren’t you Catholics putting Mary in 
					God’s place ?  
					NO, 
					praying to Mary and the other Saints in Heaven does not put 
					them in God’s place or on the same level as God.  
					It must 
					be restated that we worship, adore, and we offer sacrifice 
					to God and only to God, the Father, the Son Jesus Christ, 
					and the Holy Spirit.  And only God is our Creator, Redeemer, 
					and Savoir.  Salvation is only made possible by the merits 
					that were won for us by Jesus Christ.  God is the source of 
					all that is good.  
					All of 
					the good things that God’s holy people have done and are 
					doing are the manifestations of the glorious working of God 
					in their lives and only made possible by their co-operation 
					with His grace.  We believe that God has chosen to 
					manifest His glory through their lives.  Because He has 
					chosen to honor them so should we.  We ask them to pray with 
					us to Jesus because we believe God has been faithful to His 
					promise of giving them eternal life, a sharing to be in 
					union in His love.  [Genesis 27:29 and John 11:24-26]  
					
					Perhaps one reason for some confusion and misunderstanding 
					of Catholicism is the following; Protestants pray only to 
					God and they worship only God.  For them the two verbs, to 
					pray and to worship, are almost synonymous, meaning the same 
					thing.  Not so for Catholics.  We worship only God.  
					However, we define  “to pray”  to mean to talk to or to ask 
					for the assistance from someone in heaven.  
					
					Also, the only from of worship that Protestant’s have is to 
					pray.  Again these words, worship and prayer, can take on 
					synonymous meanings for them.  Catholics worship our 
					Heavenly Father, not only by praying, but we also worship 
					the Father by taking part in that perpetual offering of that 
					one Sacrifice of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, His Life, 
					Death, and Resurrection, to our Heavenly Father.  The verbs 
					to pray and to worship do not mean the same thing for a 
					Catholic. 
					 
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					Definitions for To Pray, and To 
					Worship 
					
					Just as we honor our parents or others here on earth, we 
					also honor those whom God has taken to heaven.  
					God does 
					manifest His Glory as He works through His creatures, the 
					angels and the saints.  They are vessels of His Grace. 
					
					  
					  
					
					5.2  Doesn’t the idea of praying to the Saints in heaven and 
					Mary's Immaculate Conception take away from the unique 
					characteristics of God, and therefore place the Saints on 
					the same level as God ?  
					This in 
					no way takes away from the unique characteristics of God.  
					It is only because the Saint’s prayers - just as the prayers 
					of our neighbors and loved ones here on earth - are done in 
					Christ that they have value.  
					Mary was 
					saved from sin from the first moment of her conception.  
					However, this in no way takes away from the unique 
					characteristic of Jesus.  
					Some 
					Christians inaccurately state that it is because Jesus was 
					without sin that He redeemed Mankind.  It is true that Jesus 
					was without sin.  He is the perfect and unblemished 
					Sacrifice.  However, if another person, a simple human being 
					for example, lived his life without sin and he was 
					sacrificed for others that would not merit heaven for 
					himself, let alone the rest of humanity.  While such a 
					person would not be deserving of hell that doesn’t mean that 
					even he himself would have merited the everlasting joy of 
					being united with God in heaven.   
					
					For example, a 
					baby who is sacrificed in the womb through abortion before 
					he has the chance to commit any personal sins does not 
					thereby redeem mankind.  Our sins are infinitely great 
					because the One whom they offend, God, is infinitely great.  
					Therefore, our salvation requires infinite grace.  Jesus was 
					able to do that and bridge the chasm between God and sinful 
					man because he is not only Man, but also God.  Therefore, 
					his sacrifice has infinite merit so that it not only saves 
					man from the just punishment of hell, but also wins for him 
					the gift of heaven.  
					
					Read why our
					
					salvation required a God-Man 
					(Jesus.) 
					Mary was 
					saved from sin from the moment of her conception by the 
					grace of God.  This points to how we will also be completely 
					freed from all sin when we enter heaven.  See Revelations 
					21:27.  Mary would not have been saved from sin had not the 
					saving work of Jesus Christ been applied to her.  Her 
					Immaculate Conception points to the Glory of God and His 
					Power.   
					
					Jesus is unique among humans because He is alone is God, 
					with the Father and the Holy Spirit.  His goodness is based 
					on Himself whereas our goodness is completely dependent on 
					Him.  It is His gift to us.  See the
					
					 God-Man (Jesus.)
					 
					  
					
					5.3  Aren’t you Catholics placing Mary to high ?  
					The 
					particular gifts that God has given to Mary do not place 
					Mary to high, rather they point to two realities.  They 
					point to the power of God.  And they point to the spiritual 
					realities that will be made manifest in the rest of the 
					church when we go to Heaven.  
					Don’t Rob 
					God of His Glory.  
					One 
					reason Catholics extol Mary so highly is that the One who 
					has molded her and works through her is her Son, Jesus 
					Christ, who is God.  To deny how great He has made her is to 
					rob Him of the recognition that He deserves for His greatest 
					work.  He is the Artist and she is His masterpiece.  
					Ironically, some misguided Christians in their zeal to give 
					the glory to God do rob him of the recognition that He 
					deserves by denying that His greatest work in her was ever 
					done.  
					Why was 
					Mary blessed more than other Christians? 
					Sometimes 
					we are more open to God’s grace than we are at other times.  
					In the course of their lives some people are more open to 
					God’s grace than are other Christians.  God is omniscient.  
					He knows everything.  He even knows our future.  He is the 
					One who created Time and Space and so He is outside of it 
					and is not restricted by it.  
					If it 
					were possible to take a movie of our lives and then to place 
					the frames of that movie onto a wall, then a person could 
					see it from the beginning to the end.  God is outside of 
					Time, outside of the movie in a sense, so He knows how our 
					lives will turn out.  God knows how open each of us will be 
					to His grace.  So, He chose that individual whom He knew 
					would be most open to His grace to be His mother.   And that 
					person is Mary.  Luke 1: 41-42
					  “Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit, cried out in a loud 
					voice and said, ‘Most blessed are you [Mary]  among women …’ 
					”
 
					Mary 
					receives a crown, but so do all Christians.  See
					2 Timothy 4:8, and 1 Peter 5:4.  
					And these crowns are in fact the crowning of God’s greatest 
					work, His new creation in us.  God’s love is made manifest 
					when our hearts and souls are transformed by His grace into 
					a loving and holy family, His people, God’s family.   Cf.
					2 Corinthians 5:17  
					
					The following terms apply to God and yet they also apply in 
					some way to members in the church; foundation, light, 
					teacher, apostle, father, shepherd, and rock.   
					
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					5.4  To say that Mary could hear thousands of Catholics who 
					are all praying at the same time and asking her to pray with 
					them to Jesus would be to give to Mary infinite and Divine 
					like qualities and hence make her a goddess. 
					As 
					clearly stated in
					
					section 2 and repeated in
					
					section 5.1 above Catholics 
					clearly state that there is only One God, of which there are 
					Three Divine Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy 
					Spirit.  Mary is a creature and clearly not Divine. 
					
					Eventually the end of the world will come, and after which 
					no more human beings will be created.  Therefore, the number 
					of humans that could be praying to Mary at a given point in 
					time is a finite and not an infinite number.  And so Mary 
					would not require infinite powers to hear them. 
					God is 
					Eternal.  That is, He existed - and will always exist - in 
					heaven before he created space and time.  [Please note: 
					Certain words like the word ‘before’ are inherently based 
					upon the concept of time so it is somewhat inappropriate to 
					use this word to express a concept ‘before’ time was 
					created, but our earthly experience and our human language 
					leaves us at a disadvantage when speaking about the things 
					of heaven.] 
					Anyway, 
					Heaven does not limit a person in regards to time and space 
					because it exits outside of time and space and always will. 
					God has 
					given us many gifts including the ability to hear and to 
					speak.  When we use God’s gifts here on earth it does not 
					make us Divine.  And when we get to heaven we will be 
					blessed with even greater gifts.  Using them then will not 
					make us Divine either.  When Mary hears and responds to all 
					those who pray to her does not require God’s Divinity, and 
					so the argument above in 5.3 has no basis. 
					
					Does it make sense for a Christian to limit capability of 
					God and His power to bestow whatever gifts He desires to 
					those who are with Him in heaven ?  
					The 
					Protestant may counter,  “But there is no need for God to 
					give the saints in heaven the power to offer prayers, in 
					Christ and through and by the merits of Christ, on behalf of 
					their brothers and sisters in Christ on earth.”  
					On Earth  
					In the 
					strictest sense, it is true that there is no need for God to 
					do anything.  He is perfect and complete in Himself.  
					However, He chooses to manifest His Glory by asking us to go 
					to our brother in Christ here on earth and ask for their 
					intercession even though Christ does not NEED to do that.  
					However, it pleases Him to manifest His glory and love 
					within those of us on earth to ask for prayers of others on 
					earth and to offer up holy prayers for others including 
					those who ask for them.   Our prayers for them are holy and 
					good because of God’s grace working within us, for He would 
					not ask us to do that if it was not a good thing to do since 
					God is perfect in everything He asks of us.  So, it is 
					pleasing to God and good that we ask for others on earth to 
					pray for us, and it is good that they offer those prayers.  
					In 
					Heaven  
					Likewise, 
					when a person goes to heaven it pleases God to manifest His 
					grace through their prayers for us, not because He needs to, 
					but because it pleases Him. 
					
					1 Corinthians 2:9“But, as it is written,
 ‘What no eye has seen, nor ear heard,
 nor the heart of man conceived,
 what God has prepared for those who love him … ’ ”
 
					See more 
					Scriptural support for the Saints intercession in
					
					section 9. |