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SDA  Adventist claim 538 – 1798, 1260 years prove the Papacy is the Anti-Christ

 

Part 1.  538 AD

Part 2.  The Historical  Events between 538 – 1798  -  This page.

Part 3. God’s Gift

 

 

Does the Catholic Church Seek to Control and Oppress God’s People ?

 

The Seventh Day Adventist’s claim that the Papacy is the Anti-Christ.  They claim that the Catholic Church and the Popes are trying to control the world.  

 

In support of this, they claim there was a unification of power between Popes and the Emperors or secular authorities who were all under the Pope’s control. 

 

This union of power and oppression of God’s people supposedly lasted 

1260 years,  from AD 538 to AD 1798. 

 

Their claim that there was a complete union of power between the Popes and the Emperors is easily proven false. 

 

It was the Emperors who sought to control the Church.  This unhealthy secular influence and attempts by the State to control the Church resulted in many problems for the Church. 

 

Emperor Justinian and his wife Theodora Vs. Pope Vigilius  AD 538

 

Historical Context : 

 

Emperor Justinian’s wife Theodora went by the title of Lady Augusta,
(Most supreme governess.)

 

She had extracted from Vigilius before he became the Pope a promise to promote the Monophysite heresy if she helped him attain the papacy.

 

She did in fact help bring about the death of the previous Pope, and perhaps the one before him, Pope Silverius, and Pope Agapitus respectively. Now, that Vigilius had become Pope she waited for him to respond to her request to carry out his promise.

 

Pope Vigilius responded to Empress Theodora, Lady Augusta, in 538 or 539 AD,

 

“Far be this form me, Lady Augusta; formerly I spoke wrongly and foolishly, but now I assuredly refuse to restore a man who is a heretic and under anathema 
[the deposed Monophysite Patriarch of Constantinople, Anthimius.] 
Though unworthy, I am vicar of Blessed Peter the Apostle, as were my predecessors, the most holy Agapitus and Silverius, who condemned him. ”

 

Warren Carroll’s  A History of Christendom, volume 2,   The Building of Christendom,  page 161

 
   

 
   

 

Historian Warren Carroll writes :

 

“In September 540 Pope Vigilius made his new orientation public by proclaiming his total support for the Tome of Pope Leo I. 

 

[And, he solemnly ratified]  the decrees of the synod at Constantinople which the “most holy” Pope Agapitus had called in 536 AD, just before his death, [and thus,]  anathematizing the Monophysites Anthimus and Severus. …

 

On this issue Justinian and Theodora were united, and action was swift. On November 22, 545   Pope Vigilius was arrested while saying Mass at the church of Saint Cecilia in Rome, on her feast day, over her corrupt body.

 

(The last Pope arrested while saying Mass had been the martyr Sixtus II during the persecution of Valerian in the third century, commemorated ever since in the Roman canon of the Mass.)

 

The glorious, exquisite Saint Cecilia and the magnificently heroic Pope St. Sixtus II  were a new kind of spiritual company for Vigilius; surely he rejoiced in it, and found strength and inspiration in their memory and example which the circumstances of his arrest called up.

 

He was to need all their strength and inspiration. For Pope St. Sixtus II’s martyrdom was over in half an hour, Saint Cecilia’s in a week or two, but that of Pope Vigilius lasted 10 years. ...

 

Justinian ... brought the Pope to Greece in the fall of 546 and the Constantinople in January 547. …

 

Vigilius tried to match wits with Justinian and Theodora and found himself woefully outclassed.  He knew very well why he was there; soon after his arrival in Constantinople he said: “Do with me what you wish. This is the just punishment for what I have done.”

 

He feared no threats now; when they warned him of long imprisonment and much suffering he responded splendidly:  “You may keep me in captivity but the blessed Apostle Peter will never be your captive!”  …

 

Frustrated and exasperated, Justinian finally issued another statement of his own against the Three Chapters in July 551, demanding that at least the Eastern bishops sign it.

 

Vigilius responded by announcing that all who did sign it would be excommunicated - not because the Three Chapters were orthodox, but because the council and the Pope, not the Emperor personally, alone had the power and the right to make the final determination of their orthodoxy or lack of it.

 

Many bishops gave their assent to the imperial statement and were consequently excommunicated by Vigilius. …

 

Above all, Pope Vigilius had the duty of preserving the independence of the church against Emperor Justinian, in a unique position of influence as the world’s only really civilized Christian ruler.

 

To the discharge of that duty Vigilius brought not a single worldly resource, not any credit from his past history. In this world, for this purpose, he had no one to rely on but himself; and Vigilius’ self was a broken reed.

 

There remained only the Lord. ...

 

Justinian …  put Vigilius into close confinement on the island of Proconnesos in the Sea of Marmara on a diet of bread and water. All the Pope’s staff were likewise imprisoned.

 

From June to December 553 Vigilius was on Proconnesos, repeatedly in agony from kidney stones.

 

He may have reflected that this was about the same length of time it had taken Pope Silverius to die of starvation on Palmaria. Whatever Justinian said, it was clear that a schism - perhaps a lasting one - was at hand …

 

Part of Vigilius’

white martyrdom was that this man,

who refused under the impulse of the Holy Spirit

to deliver the Papacy he had sold to its enemies,

and held out for ten years in captivity, has gone down in history as a trimmer to the end.

 

Satisfied at last, Justinian released Vigilius from confinement, and … sent him back to Italy.

 

But Vigilius never saw Rome again.  He died in agony from his kidney stones, on the way home [at Syracuse in Sicily June 7, 555]

at last after 10 years of exile …”

 

End Quote from

 

Warren Carroll’s  A History of Christendom, volume 2,   The Building of Christendom    pages 161 - 178

 

 

Emperor Constans II  Vs  Pope Martin I, 649- 653 AD.

 

Pope Martin I accepted consecration as Pope only after his election as such and before the Emperor Constans II  [641-668 AD] could give him the traditional imperial recognition. 

 

The Emperor tried to use this fact that the Pope Martin I failed to secure his approval as grounds to assert that the new Pope was not legitimate, however the Emperor had no canonical right to do so. 

 

The Pope may have done this on purpose to demonstrate his independence of the Emperor.

 

Although the Council of Chalcedon, in 451 AD, condemned the heresy of Monophysitism there grew out that another heresy of Monothelitism when the Byzantine Empire tried to reconcile the first error with orthodox Catholics. 

 

This led to much tension between the Emperor and the Pope.

 

Olympius was the Byzantine Exarch [governor] in Italy.  He was sent by the Byzantine Emporer to bring about Pope Martin’s death. 

 

The plan was to kill the Pope by the Exarch’s sword-bearer at the moment the Pope was giving him Holy Communion.

 

This would be assassin was suddenly struck blind, and this either brought about his conversion or at least it held him in check. 

 

The forgiving Pope and his would be killer were reconciled.  On June 15, 653 the new exarch, Theodore Colliopas, was ordered by the Emperor Constans II to take his troops to Rome and to take Pope Martin I  as prisoner. 

 

Pope Martin refused to resist arrest for fear that the Roman people would be injured in defending him. 

 

Pope Martin was arrested in Rome at the Lateran Basilica, Rome's Cathedral, in June 653 AD. 

 

 

Suffering from gout he was forced on a long and painful route to Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine Empire. 

 

No one was permitted to help him although the people of city of Naxos tried.  He arrived at Constantinople on September 17, 654 AD. 

 

Upon entering the capital he was insulted by the populace.  At this time he was imprisoned again for 3 more months. 

 

He wrote :

For forty-seven days no water, whether hot or cold, has been given me with which to wash myself, and with dysentery, which up to the present has never left me either on ship or on land, I have gone quite cold.   And in this hour of my dire trouble … my nature sickens at what I am given to eat.  But I trust in the power of God, who sees everything, that when I am dead He will bring home their doings to those who persecute me, that so at least they may be led to repent and be converted. 18

Warren Carroll’s  A History of Christendom, volume 2,   The Building of Christendom, page 244

 


 

He was forced into a packed court to answer for the charge, not of defending orthodoxy, but of treason. 

 

He was also falsely accused of not honoring Mary as the Mother of God among other things. 

 

His accusers so badly contradicted themselves that Pope Martin asked that they not be put under oath so that they could avoid committing the deadly sin of perjury. 

 

He was publicly stripped of almost all of his garments so that his naked flesh showed through.  His tunic was ripped from top to bottom.

 

Emperor Constans was merciless toward this man who had defied his power. 

 

The Pope was sentenced to death and was sent back to prison bleeding from his legs and dragging the heavy chains that were placed around his neck. 

 

The Patriarch Paul who had set him on this fatal course was himself approaching death. 

 

Fearing his own Judgment before God, and with almost his dying breath he pleaded with the Emperor to commute the sentence to permanent exile to Crimea [Russia].

 

Before being sent to Russia, one last attempt was made to persuade the Pope to recognize the Monothelite church in the capital. 

 

Pope Martin defending the truth of the Incarnation  responded,  “Even if I should be cut into pieces, I would not communicate with the Church in Constantinople [as it now is].”

 

After the martyrdom of Pope St. Martin the emissaries of the Emperor came to Abbot Maximus in August 656 AD. 

 

They tried to persuade him, but the holy Abbot would accept nothing less than their full submission to the new Pope Eugenius I and the acceptance of the decrees of Pope Martin’s Lateran synod.

 

Warren Carroll writes:

This was too much for men who were at best half repentant. 

 

Maximus therefore received the following communication in September 656, whose opening phrase goes far to suggest why the great scourge had come upon Christendom:

 

Know, lord abbot,

that when we get a little rest

from this rout of heathens

[the Muslims], 

by the Holy Trinity,

we will treat you as we are treating the Pope who is now lifted up, and all the talkers there, and the rest of your disciples.  And we will roast you all, each in his own place, as Pope Martin has been roasted. 28

 

Warren Carroll’s  A History of Christendom, volume 2,   The Building of Christendom, page 246

 

 

 

You can see this battle for freedom and Independence for the Church from the power and control of the emperors being played out even until the last half of the 11th century.

 

Pope Leo IX  [1049 -54 AD]  worked to correct these abuses. 

 

Pope Nicholas II  [1059 - 1061 AD] ,  one of his successors, at the Lateran synod of 1059 decreed that from then on the Pope was to be elected by the Cardinals, approved by the rest of the clergy, and acclaimed by the people. 

 

The Emperor, however, could only give a generic assent after the election was over and done with.

 

Pope Gregory VII  [1073-85]  who before he was elected as Pope had been the soul of the reform movement to correct abuses.   He was elected as Pope in 1073 AD. 

 

He was intensely moral and uncompromising, determined to attack abuses at the root.  

 

In 1075 he forbade any secular power to appoint bishops or concede the investiture of an abbey, under the penalty of excommunication. 

 

This bold move affirmed the Church’s independence from State domination and control.

 

So, instead of the Catholic Popes trying to control the State, it was the State, the Emperors who were trying to control the Church.

 

 

SDA  Adventist claim 538 – 1798, 1260 years prove the Papacy is the Anti-Christ

 

Part 1.  538 AD

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Part 3. God’s Gift

 

 

 
 
   
   

 

 

 

 
   
   
   

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
     
     

 

 

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